one thing's definite. the new place in putrajaya doesn't have a line. personally i think it's a scam to prevent us from calling them. i haven't got my surat lantikan yet either. according to the clerk in my office she will settle it for me but i'm bugging her once weekly just to make sure. until she gets sick of seeing me and settle the problem. i actually got the permanent cert from MMC quite some time ago. that wasn't a problem as long as you hand in your log books early and your clerk does the paper work.

just finish BTN. joined adeline, seng kiat and sathiya. saw your wife chee foo but unfortunately didn't have time to talk to her. sorry bout that. the whole damn course is quite upsetting so my advice to all who have not been:go early ..don't wait until your frustrations grow as you work in the ministry.

just wondering.....the private sector is now paying MOs between RM6000-Rm7000 a month. do you suppose we could work in the private sector and become a private candidate for masters?